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    <title>Reality 2.0 - Episodes Tagged with “Covid 19”</title>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
    <description>Join Privacy and Open Source advocates, Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman, as they navigate the new digital world, covering topics related to digital privacy, cybersecurity, digital identity, as well as  Linux and open source and other current issues.
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    <itunes:subtitle>Where tech meets reality. Navigating technology, privacy, security and open source. </itunes:subtitle>
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    <itunes:summary>Join Privacy and Open Source advocates, Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman, as they navigate the new digital world, covering topics related to digital privacy, cybersecurity, digital identity, as well as  Linux and open source and other current issues.
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  <title>Episode 35: Bruce Schneier on Truth, Reality, and Contact Tracing</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Bruce Schneier about Contact Tracing, Digital Identity, hacking, privacy, and regulation.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Bruce Schneier (https://www.schneier.com/) about contact tracing, digital identity, hacking, privacy, and regulation.
Show notes:
0:00:25: Contact tracing apps
0:02:31: Contract tracing false positive and false negative
0:04:24: Contract tracing apps adoption rate
0:07:36: Katherine agrees apps should build more trust
0:11:44: The 2nd anniversary of the GDPR
0:13:31: Bruce talks about his RSA presentation about the notion of hacking
0:15:26: Katherine dove tails hacking into contact tracing
0:18:24: Hacking discipline around SSI (Self Sovereign Identity)
0:19:08: Should we need proof of immunity or carry an immunization card/immunity passport?
0:23:28: Do the people we entrust to regulate our tech even understand it?
0:29:10: Should we give the FBI digital forensic capabilities?
0:32:24: Katherine wonders if our cellphones are at all secure
0:36:33: Doc ponders the future of travel
0:38:18: Bruce predicts we're in the midst of a major system reset
0:46:49: The political divide between the way people digest information
0:49:36: Bruce: "Truth wins because it actually conforms to reality."
Links:
Bruce Schneier on COVID-19 Contact Tracing Apps (https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/05/me_on_covad-19_.html)
Contact-tracing apps are not a solution to the COVID-19 crisis (https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/inaccurate-and-insecure-why-contact-tracing-apps-could-be-a-disaster/) Special Guest: Bruce Schneier.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to <a href="https://www.schneier.com/" rel="nofollow">Bruce Schneier</a> about contact tracing, digital identity, hacking, privacy, and regulation.</p>

<p>Show notes:</p>

<p>0:00:25: Contact tracing apps<br>
0:02:31: Contract tracing false positive and false negative<br>
0:04:24: Contract tracing apps adoption rate<br>
0:07:36: Katherine agrees apps should build more trust<br>
0:11:44: The 2nd anniversary of the GDPR<br>
0:13:31: Bruce talks about his RSA presentation about the notion of hacking<br>
0:15:26: Katherine dove tails hacking into contact tracing<br>
0:18:24: Hacking discipline around SSI (Self Sovereign Identity)<br>
0:19:08: Should we need proof of immunity or carry an immunization card/immunity passport?<br>
0:23:28: Do the people we entrust to regulate our tech even understand it?<br>
0:29:10: Should we give the FBI digital forensic capabilities?<br>
0:32:24: Katherine wonders if our cellphones are at all secure<br>
0:36:33: Doc ponders the future of travel<br>
0:38:18: Bruce predicts we&#39;re in the midst of a major system reset<br>
0:46:49: The political divide between the way people digest information<br>
0:49:36: Bruce: &quot;Truth wins because it actually conforms to reality.&quot;</p>

<p>Links:<br>
<a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/05/me_on_covad-19_.html" rel="nofollow">Bruce Schneier on COVID-19 Contact Tracing Apps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/inaccurate-and-insecure-why-contact-tracing-apps-could-be-a-disaster/" rel="nofollow">Contact-tracing apps are not a solution to the COVID-19 crisis</a></p><p>Special Guest: Bruce Schneier.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to <a href="https://www.schneier.com/" rel="nofollow">Bruce Schneier</a> about contact tracing, digital identity, hacking, privacy, and regulation.</p>

<p>Show notes:</p>

<p>0:00:25: Contact tracing apps<br>
0:02:31: Contract tracing false positive and false negative<br>
0:04:24: Contract tracing apps adoption rate<br>
0:07:36: Katherine agrees apps should build more trust<br>
0:11:44: The 2nd anniversary of the GDPR<br>
0:13:31: Bruce talks about his RSA presentation about the notion of hacking<br>
0:15:26: Katherine dove tails hacking into contact tracing<br>
0:18:24: Hacking discipline around SSI (Self Sovereign Identity)<br>
0:19:08: Should we need proof of immunity or carry an immunization card/immunity passport?<br>
0:23:28: Do the people we entrust to regulate our tech even understand it?<br>
0:29:10: Should we give the FBI digital forensic capabilities?<br>
0:32:24: Katherine wonders if our cellphones are at all secure<br>
0:36:33: Doc ponders the future of travel<br>
0:38:18: Bruce predicts we&#39;re in the midst of a major system reset<br>
0:46:49: The political divide between the way people digest information<br>
0:49:36: Bruce: &quot;Truth wins because it actually conforms to reality.&quot;</p>

<p>Links:<br>
<a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/05/me_on_covad-19_.html" rel="nofollow">Bruce Schneier on COVID-19 Contact Tracing Apps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/inaccurate-and-insecure-why-contact-tracing-apps-could-be-a-disaster/" rel="nofollow">Contact-tracing apps are not a solution to the COVID-19 crisis</a></p><p>Special Guest: Bruce Schneier.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 33: Pandemic Edition</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Kyle Rankin, Petros Koutoupis, and Shawn Powers about the new realities we're facing as a result of COVID-19.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:09:58</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Kyle Rankin, Petros Koutoupis, and Shawn Powers about the new realities we're facing as a result of COVID-19.
Show notes:
0:04:08: How is this situation a little bit different from what we're used to?
0:04:36: E-learning
0:06:00: Shawn on e-learning and computer-based training.
0:08:09: Kids without computer or internet access.
0:11:31: What is lockdown? What’s on the horizon?
0:14:14: Remote work, how to do it well.
0:16:22: What can distributed open source software teams teach everyone?
0:17:35: This is not normal right now. Don’t judge remote work.
0:18:56: The chicken suppression system's working.
0:25:12: Asynchronous communication, time zones.
0:27:19: This plague may be elevating the Big Bad companies.
0:30:21: Ethical and privacy concerns.
0:35:20: Should harvested data be used to save lives?
0:37:29: Apple privacy
0:37:49: Fourth amendment concerns.
0:39:11 Facial recognition.
0:43:12 Law enforcement and Clearview AI.
0:44:12: What is the step too far? What are the unintended consequences?
0:44:44: Local vs. large scale communication.
0:47:03: Shawn is hopeful.
0:49:05: Innovation in the works.
0:52:45: Return to normal?
0:55:52: Small business.
0:57:16: Shawn’s bidet.
0:57:34: What happens to conferences?
1:02:33 DrupalCon and #vanlife.
1:07:58 Shawn: Wash your hands. Special Guests: Kyle Rankin, Petros Koutoupis, and Shawn Powers.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Kyle Rankin, Petros Koutoupis, and Shawn Powers about the new realities we&#39;re facing as a result of COVID-19.</p>

<p>Show notes:</p>

<p>0:04:08: How is this situation a little bit different from what we&#39;re used to?</p>

<p>0:04:36: E-learning</p>

<p>0:06:00: Shawn on e-learning and computer-based training.</p>

<p>0:08:09: Kids without computer or internet access.</p>

<p>0:11:31: What is lockdown? What’s on the horizon?</p>

<p>0:14:14: Remote work, how to do it well.</p>

<p>0:16:22: What can distributed open source software teams teach everyone?</p>

<p>0:17:35: This is not normal right now. Don’t judge remote work.</p>

<p>0:18:56: The chicken suppression system&#39;s working.</p>

<p>0:25:12: Asynchronous communication, time zones.</p>

<p>0:27:19: This plague may be elevating the Big Bad companies.</p>

<p>0:30:21: Ethical and privacy concerns.</p>

<p>0:35:20: Should harvested data be used to save lives?</p>

<p>0:37:29: Apple privacy</p>

<p>0:37:49: Fourth amendment concerns.</p>

<p>0:39:11 Facial recognition.</p>

<p>0:43:12 Law enforcement and Clearview AI.</p>

<p>0:44:12: What is the step too far? What are the unintended consequences?</p>

<p>0:44:44: Local vs. large scale communication.</p>

<p>0:47:03: Shawn is hopeful.</p>

<p>0:49:05: Innovation in the works.</p>

<p>0:52:45: Return to normal?</p>

<p>0:55:52: Small business.</p>

<p>0:57:16: Shawn’s bidet.</p>

<p>0:57:34: What happens to conferences?</p>

<p>1:02:33 DrupalCon and #vanlife.</p>

<p>1:07:58 Shawn: Wash your hands.</p><p>Special Guests: Kyle Rankin, Petros Koutoupis, and Shawn Powers.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk to Kyle Rankin, Petros Koutoupis, and Shawn Powers about the new realities we&#39;re facing as a result of COVID-19.</p>

<p>Show notes:</p>

<p>0:04:08: How is this situation a little bit different from what we&#39;re used to?</p>

<p>0:04:36: E-learning</p>

<p>0:06:00: Shawn on e-learning and computer-based training.</p>

<p>0:08:09: Kids without computer or internet access.</p>

<p>0:11:31: What is lockdown? What’s on the horizon?</p>

<p>0:14:14: Remote work, how to do it well.</p>

<p>0:16:22: What can distributed open source software teams teach everyone?</p>

<p>0:17:35: This is not normal right now. Don’t judge remote work.</p>

<p>0:18:56: The chicken suppression system&#39;s working.</p>

<p>0:25:12: Asynchronous communication, time zones.</p>

<p>0:27:19: This plague may be elevating the Big Bad companies.</p>

<p>0:30:21: Ethical and privacy concerns.</p>

<p>0:35:20: Should harvested data be used to save lives?</p>

<p>0:37:29: Apple privacy</p>

<p>0:37:49: Fourth amendment concerns.</p>

<p>0:39:11 Facial recognition.</p>

<p>0:43:12 Law enforcement and Clearview AI.</p>

<p>0:44:12: What is the step too far? What are the unintended consequences?</p>

<p>0:44:44: Local vs. large scale communication.</p>

<p>0:47:03: Shawn is hopeful.</p>

<p>0:49:05: Innovation in the works.</p>

<p>0:52:45: Return to normal?</p>

<p>0:55:52: Small business.</p>

<p>0:57:16: Shawn’s bidet.</p>

<p>0:57:34: What happens to conferences?</p>

<p>1:02:33 DrupalCon and #vanlife.</p>

<p>1:07:58 Shawn: Wash your hands.</p><p>Special Guests: Kyle Rankin, Petros Koutoupis, and Shawn Powers.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p>]]>
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