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    <title>Reality 2.0 - Episodes Tagged with “Drupal”</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2022 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
    <description>Join Privacy and Open Source advocates, Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman, as they navigate the new digital world, covering topics related to digital privacy, cybersecurity, digital identity, as well as  Linux and open source and other current issues.
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    <itunes:summary>Join Privacy and Open Source advocates, Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman, as they navigate the new digital world, covering topics related to digital privacy, cybersecurity, digital identity, as well as  Linux and open source and other current issues.
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  <title>Episode 116: The state of the CMS vs Silos</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2022 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Tune in to our new episode! Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Adam Bergstein about the evolution of CMSes, the current landscape, and how they fit in with today’s siloed web.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>53:23</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Tune in to our new episode! Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Adam Bergstein about the evolution of CMSes, the current landscape, and how they fit in with today’s siloed web.&lt;/p&gt;

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    <![CDATA[<p>Tune in to our new episode! Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Adam Bergstein about the evolution of CMSes, the current landscape, and how they fit in with today’s siloed web.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.reality2cast.com" rel="nofollow">Site/Blog/Newsletter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/reality2cast" rel="nofollow">FaceBook</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdvdT3quikpi9sd5SxTGk3Q" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></p><p>Special Guest: Adam Bergstein.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="DrupalCon 2022 Recap | Nerdstein" rel="nofollow" href="https://nerdstein.net/blog/drupalcon-2022-recap">DrupalCon 2022 Recap | Nerdstein</a> &mdash; While the CMS and DXP framework space is exploding, Drupal’s adoption numbers are trending down overall. While the talk covers this in greater depth, there were a few primary reasons my research uncovered:
&nbsp;
A heavy focus on an extensible, ambitious development framework de-emphasized builders and adopters who want low/no-code solutions and are concerned with time-to-value
Frameworks are positioned for an enterprise market, where extensibility is critical to business success.
Adoption is favoring tools that have more SaaS-based delivery (including products that deliver Wordpress) because they address SMB needs: faster time-to-value, common everyday features, usability over extensibility, no-code, and no/low maintenance offerings.</li><li><a title="Evaluating the Landscape of Drupal Competition" rel="nofollow" href="https://nerdstein.net/sites/default/files/presentations/Evaluating%20the%20Landscape%20of%20Drupal%20Competition.pdf">Evaluating the Landscape of Drupal Competition</a></li><li><a title="Time for THEM to agree to OUR terms | by Doc Searls | Medium" rel="nofollow" href="https://dsearls.medium.com/time-for-them-to-agree-to-our-terms-263ee87e9f41#.xz1fwq56k">Time for THEM to agree to OUR terms | by Doc Searls | Medium</a> &mdash; We can do for customers what Creative Commons does for artists: give them terms they can offer — and be can read and agreed to by lawyers, ordinary folks, and their machines. And then we can watch “free market” come to mean what it says, and not just “your choice of captor.”</li><li><a title="Doc Searls on Twitter: &quot;Remarkable and surprising visualization on @Reddit: https://t.co/86j1FNIk0Z&quot; / Twitter" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/dsearls/status/1539295906897571842">Doc Searls on Twitter: "Remarkable and surprising visualization on @Reddit: https://t.co/86j1FNIk0Z" / Twitter</a></li><li><a title="Home | Simplytest" rel="nofollow" href="https://simplytest.me/">Home | Simplytest</a> &mdash; simplytest.me helps you to find the module, theme or distribution that fits your needs.

It provides sandbox environments for testing the functionality of any project before even downloading it.</li><li><a title="IEEE P7012 - Machine Readable Privacy Terms Working Group - IEEE P7012 Working Group" rel="nofollow" href="https://sagroups.ieee.org/7012/">IEEE P7012 - Machine Readable Privacy Terms Working Group - IEEE P7012 Working Group</a> &mdash; The standard identifies/addresses the manner in which personal privacy terms are proffered and how they can be read and agreed to by machines.</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Tune in to our new episode! Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Adam Bergstein about the evolution of CMSes, the current landscape, and how they fit in with today’s siloed web.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.reality2cast.com" rel="nofollow">Site/Blog/Newsletter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/reality2cast" rel="nofollow">FaceBook</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdvdT3quikpi9sd5SxTGk3Q" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></p><p>Special Guest: Adam Bergstein.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="DrupalCon 2022 Recap | Nerdstein" rel="nofollow" href="https://nerdstein.net/blog/drupalcon-2022-recap">DrupalCon 2022 Recap | Nerdstein</a> &mdash; While the CMS and DXP framework space is exploding, Drupal’s adoption numbers are trending down overall. While the talk covers this in greater depth, there were a few primary reasons my research uncovered:
&nbsp;
A heavy focus on an extensible, ambitious development framework de-emphasized builders and adopters who want low/no-code solutions and are concerned with time-to-value
Frameworks are positioned for an enterprise market, where extensibility is critical to business success.
Adoption is favoring tools that have more SaaS-based delivery (including products that deliver Wordpress) because they address SMB needs: faster time-to-value, common everyday features, usability over extensibility, no-code, and no/low maintenance offerings.</li><li><a title="Evaluating the Landscape of Drupal Competition" rel="nofollow" href="https://nerdstein.net/sites/default/files/presentations/Evaluating%20the%20Landscape%20of%20Drupal%20Competition.pdf">Evaluating the Landscape of Drupal Competition</a></li><li><a title="Time for THEM to agree to OUR terms | by Doc Searls | Medium" rel="nofollow" href="https://dsearls.medium.com/time-for-them-to-agree-to-our-terms-263ee87e9f41#.xz1fwq56k">Time for THEM to agree to OUR terms | by Doc Searls | Medium</a> &mdash; We can do for customers what Creative Commons does for artists: give them terms they can offer — and be can read and agreed to by lawyers, ordinary folks, and their machines. And then we can watch “free market” come to mean what it says, and not just “your choice of captor.”</li><li><a title="Doc Searls on Twitter: &quot;Remarkable and surprising visualization on @Reddit: https://t.co/86j1FNIk0Z&quot; / Twitter" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/dsearls/status/1539295906897571842">Doc Searls on Twitter: "Remarkable and surprising visualization on @Reddit: https://t.co/86j1FNIk0Z" / Twitter</a></li><li><a title="Home | Simplytest" rel="nofollow" href="https://simplytest.me/">Home | Simplytest</a> &mdash; simplytest.me helps you to find the module, theme or distribution that fits your needs.

It provides sandbox environments for testing the functionality of any project before even downloading it.</li><li><a title="IEEE P7012 - Machine Readable Privacy Terms Working Group - IEEE P7012 Working Group" rel="nofollow" href="https://sagroups.ieee.org/7012/">IEEE P7012 - Machine Readable Privacy Terms Working Group - IEEE P7012 Working Group</a> &mdash; The standard identifies/addresses the manner in which personal privacy terms are proffered and how they can be read and agreed to by machines.</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 75: Let's Talk About FLoC Blocking</title>
  <link>https://www.reality2cast.com/75</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2021 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls</author>
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  <itunes:author>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Drupal Association Community Liaison, Rachel Lawson, and Drupal developer, Tony Savorelli, about Privacy in Drupal and beyond, and protecting ourselves and others on the web.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:02:03</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Drupal Association Community Liaison, Rachel Lawson, and Drupal developer, Tony Savorelli, about Privacy in Drupal and beyond, and protecting ourselves and others on the web.&lt;/p&gt;

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  <itunes:keywords>technology, privacy, open source, security, linux</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Drupal Association Community Liaison, Rachel Lawson, and Drupal developer, Tony Savorelli, about Privacy in Drupal and beyond, and protecting ourselves and others on the web.</p>

<p><a href="https://reality2cast.com/newsletter" rel="nofollow">Subscribe to our newsletter.</a></p>

<p><strong>Reality 2.0 around the web:</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.reality2cast.com" rel="nofollow">Site/Blog/Newsletter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/reality2cast" rel="nofollow">FaceBook</a><br>
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<a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></p><p>Special Guests: Rachel Lawson and Tony Savorelli.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Add Permissions-Policy header to block Google FLoC [#3209628] | Drupal.org" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3209628">Add Permissions-Policy header to block Google FLoC [#3209628] | Drupal.org</a> &mdash; Google is introducing what it calls Federated Learning of Cohorts, which is a way to gather user data without cookies, regardless of whether a website is loading any Google-related trackers. This is enabled starting in Chrome 89, and only in select countries on a trial basis.

Although other major browser vendors are likely against this technology and will presumably not be implementing it, given Chrome’s market share this will become a concerning issue, because it largely remove users’ ability to easily opt out of being tracked—particularly true in the case of less-savvy users.

See a very informative post by Plausible.

Since no one can reasonably expect users to just stop using Chrome, it will be up to responsible developers to block FLoC at the source.</li><li><a title="Amazon is blocking Google&#39;s FLoC — and that could seriously weaken the system" rel="nofollow" href="https://digiday.com/media/amazon-is-blocking-googles-floc-and-that-could-seriously-weaken-the-fledgling-tracking-system/">Amazon is blocking Google's FLoC — and that could seriously weaken the system</a> &mdash; Amazon is blocking Google’s controversial cookieless tracking and targeting method.

</li><li><a title="Privacy analysis of FLoC" rel="nofollow" href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/privacy-analysis-of-floc/">Privacy analysis of FLoC</a> &mdash; In the current web, trackers (and hence advertisers) associate a cookie with each user. Whenever a user visits a website that has an embedded tracker, the tracker gets the cookie and can thus build up a list of the sites that a user visits. Advertisers can use the information gained from tracking browsing history to target ads that are potentially relevant to a given user’s interests. The obvious problem here is that it involves advertisers learning everywhere you go.&nbsp;</li><li><a title="Surveillance Self-Defense | Tips, Tools and How-tos for Safer Online Communications" rel="nofollow" href="https://ssd.eff.org/">Surveillance Self-Defense | Tips, Tools and How-tos for Safer Online Communications</a> &mdash; We’re the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an independent non-profit working to protect online privacy for nearly thirty years. This is Surveillance Self-Defense : our expert guide to protecting you and your friends from online spying.</li><li><a title="University of Pennsylvania ScholarlyCommons" rel="nofollow" href="https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1554&amp;hx0026;context=asc_papers">University of Pennsylvania ScholarlyCommons</a> &mdash; The Tradeoff Fallacy - How Marketers Are
Misrepresenting American Consumers and
Opening Them up to Exploitation</li><li><a title="Reality 2.0 - Blog - Reality 2.0 Newsletter - June 4, 2021: More Tracking Tech and Apple" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reality2cast.com/articles/reality-2-0-newsletter-june-4-2021-more-tracking-tech-and-apple">Reality 2.0 - Blog - Reality 2.0 Newsletter - June 4, 2021: More Tracking Tech and Apple</a> &mdash; After a lengthy discussion in Drupal’s core issue queue by some of Katherine’s favorite people, the upcoming release of Drupal 9.2 will officially block Google’s Federated Learning of Cohorts (FLoC) by default! Similarly, the WordPress and Joomla communities are taking similar measures. With these platforms representing a huge chunk of websites, this must be quite a blow to Google, enough so that a member of Google Chrome’s developer relations team weighed in on the Drupal issue himself. I hope this news inspires you to run off and build a Drupal site, so I’ll just leave this documentation link here just in case.</li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Drupal Association Community Liaison, Rachel Lawson, and Drupal developer, Tony Savorelli, about Privacy in Drupal and beyond, and protecting ourselves and others on the web.</p>

<p><a href="https://reality2cast.com/newsletter" rel="nofollow">Subscribe to our newsletter.</a></p>

<p><strong>Reality 2.0 around the web:</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.reality2cast.com" rel="nofollow">Site/Blog/Newsletter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/reality2cast" rel="nofollow">FaceBook</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdvdT3quikpi9sd5SxTGk3Q" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></p><p>Special Guests: Rachel Lawson and Tony Savorelli.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Add Permissions-Policy header to block Google FLoC [#3209628] | Drupal.org" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.drupal.org/project/drupal/issues/3209628">Add Permissions-Policy header to block Google FLoC [#3209628] | Drupal.org</a> &mdash; Google is introducing what it calls Federated Learning of Cohorts, which is a way to gather user data without cookies, regardless of whether a website is loading any Google-related trackers. This is enabled starting in Chrome 89, and only in select countries on a trial basis.

Although other major browser vendors are likely against this technology and will presumably not be implementing it, given Chrome’s market share this will become a concerning issue, because it largely remove users’ ability to easily opt out of being tracked—particularly true in the case of less-savvy users.

See a very informative post by Plausible.

Since no one can reasonably expect users to just stop using Chrome, it will be up to responsible developers to block FLoC at the source.</li><li><a title="Amazon is blocking Google&#39;s FLoC — and that could seriously weaken the system" rel="nofollow" href="https://digiday.com/media/amazon-is-blocking-googles-floc-and-that-could-seriously-weaken-the-fledgling-tracking-system/">Amazon is blocking Google's FLoC — and that could seriously weaken the system</a> &mdash; Amazon is blocking Google’s controversial cookieless tracking and targeting method.

</li><li><a title="Privacy analysis of FLoC" rel="nofollow" href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/privacy-analysis-of-floc/">Privacy analysis of FLoC</a> &mdash; In the current web, trackers (and hence advertisers) associate a cookie with each user. Whenever a user visits a website that has an embedded tracker, the tracker gets the cookie and can thus build up a list of the sites that a user visits. Advertisers can use the information gained from tracking browsing history to target ads that are potentially relevant to a given user’s interests. The obvious problem here is that it involves advertisers learning everywhere you go.&nbsp;</li><li><a title="Surveillance Self-Defense | Tips, Tools and How-tos for Safer Online Communications" rel="nofollow" href="https://ssd.eff.org/">Surveillance Self-Defense | Tips, Tools and How-tos for Safer Online Communications</a> &mdash; We’re the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an independent non-profit working to protect online privacy for nearly thirty years. This is Surveillance Self-Defense : our expert guide to protecting you and your friends from online spying.</li><li><a title="University of Pennsylvania ScholarlyCommons" rel="nofollow" href="https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1554&amp;hx0026;context=asc_papers">University of Pennsylvania ScholarlyCommons</a> &mdash; The Tradeoff Fallacy - How Marketers Are
Misrepresenting American Consumers and
Opening Them up to Exploitation</li><li><a title="Reality 2.0 - Blog - Reality 2.0 Newsletter - June 4, 2021: More Tracking Tech and Apple" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reality2cast.com/articles/reality-2-0-newsletter-june-4-2021-more-tracking-tech-and-apple">Reality 2.0 - Blog - Reality 2.0 Newsletter - June 4, 2021: More Tracking Tech and Apple</a> &mdash; After a lengthy discussion in Drupal’s core issue queue by some of Katherine’s favorite people, the upcoming release of Drupal 9.2 will officially block Google’s Federated Learning of Cohorts (FLoC) by default! Similarly, the WordPress and Joomla communities are taking similar measures. With these platforms representing a huge chunk of websites, this must be quite a blow to Google, enough so that a member of Google Chrome’s developer relations team weighed in on the Drupal issue himself. I hope this news inspires you to run off and build a Drupal site, so I’ll just leave this documentation link here just in case.</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 59: FOSS, Mentorship, and Doing Great Work</title>
  <link>https://www.reality2cast.com/59</link>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Travis Carden and Petros Koutoupis about maintaining open source projects, mentoring contributors, Drupal, and automated testing.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:05:39</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Travis Carden and Petros Koutoupis about maintaining open source projects, mentoring contributors, Drupal, and automated testing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Show notes:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(42s): Intros, subscribe to our newsletter, and buy our swag. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(1m 38s): Who IS Travis Carden?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(4m 36s): Maintaining an open source project and mentoring contributors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(8m 13s): Drupal's origins and evolution.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(18m 57s): Impressive Drupal examples.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(24m 49s): Mentorship and Drupal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(31m 24s): Intro to Orca, the Drupal testing tool.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(33m 17s): Open sourcing Orca.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(48m 33s): Basics of automated testing.&lt;/p&gt;

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    <![CDATA[<p>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Travis Carden and Petros Koutoupis about maintaining open source projects, mentoring contributors, Drupal, and automated testing.</p>

<p>Show notes:</p>

<p>(42s): Intros, subscribe to our newsletter, and buy our swag. ;)</p>

<p>(1m 38s): Who IS Travis Carden?</p>

<p>(4m 36s): Maintaining an open source project and mentoring contributors.</p>

<p>(8m 13s): Drupal&#39;s origins and evolution.</p>

<p>(18m 57s): Impressive Drupal examples.</p>

<p>(24m 49s): Mentorship and Drupal.</p>

<p>(31m 24s): Intro to Orca, the Drupal testing tool.</p>

<p>(33m 17s): Open sourcing Orca.</p>

<p>(48m 33s): Basics of automated testing.</p>

<p>(57m 35s): Automated testing strategy.</p>

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<a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></p><p>Special Guests: Petros Koutoupis and Travis Carden.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="acquia/orca: A tool for testing a company&#39;s software packages together in the context of a realistic, functioning, best practices Drupal build" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/acquia/orca">acquia/orca: A tool for testing a company's software packages together in the context of a realistic, functioning, best practices Drupal build</a> &mdash; ORCA (Official Representative Customer Application) is a tool for testing a company's Drupal-adjacent software packages. It ensures their cross compatibility and correct functioning by installing all of them together into a realistic, functioning, best practices Drupal build and running automated tests and static code analysis on them. Its guiding design principle is to use company packages as a customer would. It installs the latest recommended versions via Composer and performs no manual setup or configuration.</li><li><a title="Liskov substitution principle - Wikipedia" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liskov_substitution_principle">Liskov substitution principle - Wikipedia</a> &mdash; Substitutability is a principle in object-oriented programming stating that, in a computer program, if S is a subtype of T, then objects of type T may be replaced with objects of type S (i.e., an object of type T may be substituted with any object of a subtype S) without altering any of the desirable properties of the program (correctness, task performed, etc.). More formally, the Liskov substitution principle (LSP) is a particular definition of a subtyping relation, called (strong) behavioral subtyping, that was initially introduced by Barbara Liskov in a 1987 conference keynote address titled Data abstraction and hierarchy.</li><li><a title="Drupal Cloud: Acquia CMS - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWV_nrb8zcc">Drupal Cloud: Acquia CMS - YouTube</a> &mdash; Preview of Acquia CMS.</li><li><a title="Test Driven Development: By Example: Beck, Kent: 8601400403228: Amazon.com: Gateway" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Test-Driven-Development-Kent-Beck/dp/0321146530/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=test+driven+development+by+example&amp;qid=1556548349&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=traviscardenc-20&amp;linkId=d806e43f9d95b7feaa9725e69eacd6ff&amp;language=en_US">Test Driven Development: By Example: Beck, Kent: 8601400403228: Amazon.com: Gateway</a> &mdash; Travis's recommendation - A great resource for anyone getting started driving their own development or struggling "where the rubber meets the road". It's hands-on and practical.
</li><li><a title="xUnit Test Patterns: Refactoring Test Code (Addison-Wesley Signature Series (Fowler)) 1, Meszaros, Gerard, eBook - Amazon.com" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/xUnit-Test-Patterns-Refactoring-Addison-Wesley-ebook/dp/B004X1D36K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=xunit&amp;qid=1556550221&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=traviscardenc-20&amp;linkId=d5e4e88284f2946c4bafa1f00848924b&amp;language=en_US">xUnit Test Patterns: Refactoring Test Code (Addison-Wesley Signature Series (Fowler)) 1, Meszaros, Gerard, eBook - Amazon.com</a> &mdash; Travis's recommendation - This is the most comprehensive and authoritative book I know of on unit testing--for those who want to get really good at it. It's a long read at 833 pages, but it covers most issues you're likely to encounter on your way to proficiency. It's organized in such a way that it can be used as a cookbook or pattern library even if you don't read it straight through.
</li><li><a title="Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship: Robert C. Martin: 9780132350884: Amazon.com: Books" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132350882/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=traviscardenc-20&amp;linkId=d73b89f8526f8c69edce444e185496c4">Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship: Robert C. Martin: 9780132350884: Amazon.com: Books</a> &mdash; Travis's Recommendation - This would be my top recommendation for its balance of breadth, comprehensiveness, length, and accessibility. It's companion book The Clean Coder: A Code of Conduct for Professional Programmers, though on a little different topic, is also highly recommendable. Both were highly formative for me. The more recently published Clean Architecture: A Craftsman's Guide to Software Structure and Design in the same series is also excellent.
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Travis Carden and Petros Koutoupis about maintaining open source projects, mentoring contributors, Drupal, and automated testing.</p>

<p>Show notes:</p>

<p>(42s): Intros, subscribe to our newsletter, and buy our swag. ;)</p>

<p>(1m 38s): Who IS Travis Carden?</p>

<p>(4m 36s): Maintaining an open source project and mentoring contributors.</p>

<p>(8m 13s): Drupal&#39;s origins and evolution.</p>

<p>(18m 57s): Impressive Drupal examples.</p>

<p>(24m 49s): Mentorship and Drupal.</p>

<p>(31m 24s): Intro to Orca, the Drupal testing tool.</p>

<p>(33m 17s): Open sourcing Orca.</p>

<p>(48m 33s): Basics of automated testing.</p>

<p>(57m 35s): Automated testing strategy.</p>

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<a href="https://linuxrocks.online/@reality2cast" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></p><p>Special Guests: Petros Koutoupis and Travis Carden.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/reality2cast">Support Reality 2.0</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="acquia/orca: A tool for testing a company&#39;s software packages together in the context of a realistic, functioning, best practices Drupal build" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/acquia/orca">acquia/orca: A tool for testing a company's software packages together in the context of a realistic, functioning, best practices Drupal build</a> &mdash; ORCA (Official Representative Customer Application) is a tool for testing a company's Drupal-adjacent software packages. It ensures their cross compatibility and correct functioning by installing all of them together into a realistic, functioning, best practices Drupal build and running automated tests and static code analysis on them. Its guiding design principle is to use company packages as a customer would. It installs the latest recommended versions via Composer and performs no manual setup or configuration.</li><li><a title="Liskov substitution principle - Wikipedia" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liskov_substitution_principle">Liskov substitution principle - Wikipedia</a> &mdash; Substitutability is a principle in object-oriented programming stating that, in a computer program, if S is a subtype of T, then objects of type T may be replaced with objects of type S (i.e., an object of type T may be substituted with any object of a subtype S) without altering any of the desirable properties of the program (correctness, task performed, etc.). More formally, the Liskov substitution principle (LSP) is a particular definition of a subtyping relation, called (strong) behavioral subtyping, that was initially introduced by Barbara Liskov in a 1987 conference keynote address titled Data abstraction and hierarchy.</li><li><a title="Drupal Cloud: Acquia CMS - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWV_nrb8zcc">Drupal Cloud: Acquia CMS - YouTube</a> &mdash; Preview of Acquia CMS.</li><li><a title="Test Driven Development: By Example: Beck, Kent: 8601400403228: Amazon.com: Gateway" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Test-Driven-Development-Kent-Beck/dp/0321146530/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=test+driven+development+by+example&amp;qid=1556548349&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-3&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=traviscardenc-20&amp;linkId=d806e43f9d95b7feaa9725e69eacd6ff&amp;language=en_US">Test Driven Development: By Example: Beck, Kent: 8601400403228: Amazon.com: Gateway</a> &mdash; Travis's recommendation - A great resource for anyone getting started driving their own development or struggling "where the rubber meets the road". It's hands-on and practical.
</li><li><a title="xUnit Test Patterns: Refactoring Test Code (Addison-Wesley Signature Series (Fowler)) 1, Meszaros, Gerard, eBook - Amazon.com" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/xUnit-Test-Patterns-Refactoring-Addison-Wesley-ebook/dp/B004X1D36K/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=xunit&amp;qid=1556550221&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=traviscardenc-20&amp;linkId=d5e4e88284f2946c4bafa1f00848924b&amp;language=en_US">xUnit Test Patterns: Refactoring Test Code (Addison-Wesley Signature Series (Fowler)) 1, Meszaros, Gerard, eBook - Amazon.com</a> &mdash; Travis's recommendation - This is the most comprehensive and authoritative book I know of on unit testing--for those who want to get really good at it. It's a long read at 833 pages, but it covers most issues you're likely to encounter on your way to proficiency. It's organized in such a way that it can be used as a cookbook or pattern library even if you don't read it straight through.
</li><li><a title="Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship: Robert C. Martin: 9780132350884: Amazon.com: Books" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132350882/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=traviscardenc-20&amp;linkId=d73b89f8526f8c69edce444e185496c4">Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship: Robert C. Martin: 9780132350884: Amazon.com: Books</a> &mdash; Travis's Recommendation - This would be my top recommendation for its balance of breadth, comprehensiveness, length, and accessibility. It's companion book The Clean Coder: A Code of Conduct for Professional Programmers, though on a little different topic, is also highly recommendable. Both were highly formative for me. The more recently published Clean Architecture: A Craftsman's Guide to Software Structure and Design in the same series is also excellent.
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